Episode 321 - ERIN

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Episode 321 - ERIN

Post by Episode Guide » Wed Jun 24, 2015 11:30 am

Date: January 26, 1969

Summary: Hoss finds some Indians with one of their cows and meets Erin, an Irish woman raised by the Sioux Indians. She trades Hoss’ horses for the cow that the Indians took. Hoss and Erin fall in Love and plan to marry but bigotry and superstition loom over their Love.

Written by: Sandy Summerhays
Directed by: Don Richardson
Guest Stars:Mary Fickett (Erin O'Donnell)

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Re: Episode 321 - ERIN

Post by snapdragon » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:39 pm

This was a nice romance story for Hoss, but I had a real problem with the leading lady and how the locals hated her and called her a "half-breed" or a "white Indian" when she could've easily passed as white. There was nothing remotely Indian about her. She was raised by the Sioux since she was a child but she still spoke with an Irish brogue? Even her blonde hair was nicely combed and styled the way any white woman would've worn her hair. :think I'll put it this way: Dawn Wells made for a more convincing Indian than this lady.

I swear, every time I see a white person trying to pass off as Indian, I cringe and think of PR's words. The only actor who could successfully pull off being a "half-breed" on this show was Charles Bronson, IMO.

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Re: Episode 321 - ERIN

Post by AgnethaF » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:47 pm

Mary Fickett, who played Erin went on to play Ruth Martin on "All My Children." When I first saw that episode, I thought wow, it's Ruth from All My Children!
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Re: Episode 321 - ERIN

Post by daisy60 » Wed Sep 02, 2015 4:35 pm

The episode is ok but she just wasn't convincing enough as someone who was raised by the Indians. Wasn't she also Archie Bunker's neighbor at one time?

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Re: Episode 321 - ERIN

Post by ellie » Wed Sep 02, 2015 5:39 pm

My understanding is that she was old enough to have already established her Irish brogue before she and her father went to live with the Sioux. So her brogue doesn't bother me at all.

Erin is my favorite Hoss Romance. She was strong, not the typical weak female that the writers always threw at the Cartwrights. I've even written a mini-fic that had Erin live, marry Hoss and have children. Sadly, my muse forced Erin to out-live Hoss. :sob

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Re: Episode 321 - ERIN

Post by ellen » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:05 pm

I don't think her character had Indian ancestry, did she?

Since her early English exposure was from someone with an Irish accent, and she was isolated from other English speakers when she lived with the Sioux, I can see where she would still speak with an accent. Henry Kissinger has been in the US for most of his life - since 1938! - but still has his accent.

And as for her hair - welcome to Bonanza, where women's hair was (obviously) a low priority! Or men's hair, for that matter. At least they didn't make her wear that orange lipstick!
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Re: Episode 321 - ERIN

Post by Tracy » Wed Sep 02, 2015 6:09 pm

This episode bothers me, too. Not the Irish brogue, not the actress, not the character's strength and independence.

Love is a two way deal, IMO. Hoss was willing to support Erin's Indian ways and beliefs and to defend her to anyone who did not. That's love. Erin, on the other hand, IMO, wasn't willing to give Hoss's declarations a chance to work or fail -- she just assumed they'd fail, talked about how awful many white people were, how they'd never accept her. If she'd spent most of her life with the Indians, how could she know this? Is it common talk among the Indians? Did they threaten her with that, telling her she could never go back? If so, why was she so invested in being one of them?

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Re: Episode 321 - ERIN

Post by Calamity » Wed Sep 02, 2015 8:19 pm

I think that if they hadn't done her in that she and Hoss would have made a wonderful couple.She was a strong, moral woman who could have been involved in many future plot lines. Even Adam would have approved. :yes
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Re: Episode 321 - ERIN

Post by ljlover2001 » Sat Sep 12, 2015 3:00 am

Erin was the best choice for a wife for Hoss and I wrote a story that had them married.
She wasn't supposed to be an Indian. The back story was that her father had been a friend of the Indians and she had been raised amongst them, with her father, so she knew all about their customs and beliefs and had sympathy for the way their lives were being ruined by the white man.
I think she did love Hoss, but feared that the prejudices aimed at her, by other white people, would hurt Hoss and his family.
It was so sad when she died, he was so cut up
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