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Re: Episode 203 - THE DEBT

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2019 3:09 pm
by littlejoenice
This episode was kind of strange to me. I mean, you had Wiley, who was trying to work off his father's debts just so they could have a decent name in society when Annie couldn't even read. He hated his father while Annie loved him and was willing to do just about anything for him. Tommy Sands was terrific, and not having waited for the credits, I wasn't aware that that was Brooke Bundy. It took me a while to figure out where I'd seen Sam Kane before, and then I remembered. It was in the Bonanza episode, Mirror of a Man, and he played Homer/Jud Lolly's father.

I love the scene where Joe is trying to explain the spelling of different words and keeps getting her even more confused than she already was. Bow/bow, bough. :laughing However, it was one of those fast-paced episodes I'm rather fond of. Blink and you'll miss something, is what I felt about it.

Re: Episode 203 - THE DEBT

Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 1:10 pm
by Jim Barnsby
I agree that The Debt is indeed an odd episode, especially for a season opener. It's all the more odd with it being the first episode of Bonanza's Brave New World without ol' Lean-O in the cast (though he is mentioned).

Tommy Sands was a pretty good actor. He was especially good as a nightclub singer/cat burglar in the season one Hawaii Five-0 episode, No Blue Skies. Brooke Bundy is always a welcome presence in 1960s TV. The geographic scenery is markedly improved over that of previous seasons, something that I have come to associate with the season 7-and-on era. I am a huge Adam fan, but I find much to love about the seasons after his departure; I'm probably the *only* Adam fan who does!

Okay, obviously I am not since Bonanza continued to be the #1 show on television for this and next season. Many fans missed Adam, but not enough to keep Bonanza from the top of the ratings. I wonder if "The Cult of Adam" developed later, during syndication, since his episodes were the ones most often seen in the post-1973 era up until The so-called Lost Episodes "became a thing", as the kids say.

I associate The Debt with Hallmark Channel's ever-so-brief airing of Bonanza on weekdays at noon. This must have been in 2006 or so. What's odd about it is that Hallmark only had Bonanza on at that time slot for about four days before they yanked it without explanation.

My Rating: 4/10

Re: Episode 203 - THE DEBT

Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2019 10:42 am
by ellen
Jim Barnsby wrote: The geographic scenery is markedly improved over that of previous seasons, something that I have come to associate with the season 7-and-on era. I am a huge Adam fan, but I find much to love about the seasons after his departure; I'm probably the *only* Adam fan who does!
I think they did seem to film more out on location. I love seeing the beautiful scenery.

My opinion: the show changed after Adam left; not necessarily in season 7 but a couple seasons later. But this wasn't entirely due to Adam; TV in general was changing to more emotion and less violence. Occasionally I'll be watching a later episode and notice that the bad guys aren't getting shot, they're getting knocked out or a Cartwright simply "got the drop on them."
Jim Barnsby wrote:Okay, obviously I am not since Bonanza continued to be the #1 show on television for this and next season. Many fans missed Adam, but not enough to keep Bonanza from the top of the ratings. I wonder if "The Cult of Adam" developed later, during syndication, since his episodes were the ones most often seen in the post-1973 era up until The so-called Lost Episodes "became a thing", as the kids say.
I think you're right that part of the "Cult of Adam" came about because the earlier episodes were more often aired. But the internet and sites like this probably have a lot to do with it too!