Episode 122 - THE ACTRESS

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Episode 122 - THE ACTRESS

Post by Episode Guide » Mon Jun 22, 2015 8:24 pm

Date: February 24, 1963

Summary: Actress Julia Grant comes to town and falls for Little Joe.

Written by: Norman Lessing
Directed by: Christian Nyby
Guest Stars: Pat Crowley (Julia Grant), John Rodney (Edwin Booth)

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Post by Drifter » Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:03 pm

I happened to watch this yesterday. I can’t speak for all of Joe’s love interests, but I must say, I found Julia especially annoying for an older woman, Joe had more maturity than she did. I tried listening to her passionate speeches about her dreams in acting...it all sounded frivolous and silly...especially how she spoke of Edwin Booth and actors she didn’t really know.

I’m not suggesting it’s wrong to be passionate about goals, but despite offers for assistance, she was determined to sink or swim while having a child along for the ride. I felt sorry for her son, Tommy. He really wanted what was best for his mother even though I thought she was selfish for dragging him along everywhere without a chance to settle anywhere. She’d tell him they’re leaving one minute, change her mind the next minute and make him pack and unpack all over again. Even after she was finally getting her “chance in the spotlight,” there was all this talk of her fame and fortune and no thought to her son’s best interest.

I’m actually glad Joe realized she was too in love with the spotlight to settle down with him. Imagine him supporting her son and her wavering between success and struggle, and leaving his home for that kind of unsteady lifestyle of acting. I think he would’ve resented it after a while.

A part of me hopes Julia would chase her dreams and have sense enough to leave Tommy with a family that would give him the support and attention he would’ve needed.

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Re: Episode 122 - THE ACTRESS

Post by daisy60 » Sat Apr 06, 2019 3:48 pm

I agree, Julia was annoying! I have no idea what Joe saw in her. :mad All she cared about was her career and she wasn't much of an actress or singer to me. :shrug

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Re: Episode 122 - THE ACTRESS

Post by debpet2 » Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:53 pm

This episode may not be one of the best, but it has always interested me for one very particular reason...the revelation that Adam was friends with the famous actor Edwin Booth. Being very much a theater person, I am intrigued by the idea of that relationship. Since I noticed that there were a couple of new comments about the episode, I decided to post a short story that I had written some time ago about how Adam and Edwin might have met.

https://www.bonanzaboomers.com/forums/v ... 98&t=34456


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Re: Episode 122 - THE ACTRESS

Post by Julianna » Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:12 pm

This is not a great episode and not a very good Joe episode. Everyone tries to help this girl and she is very self absorbed. I forget if she wears a blue dress or not but certainly glad she got to be an actress elsewhere.

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Re: Episode 122 - THE ACTRESS

Post by Adamant » Sat Apr 13, 2019 8:07 am

debpet2 wrote: Since I noticed that there were a couple of new comments about the episode, I decided to post a short story that I had written some time ago about how Adam and Edwin might have met.

https://www.bonanzaboomers.com/forums/v ... 98&t=34456


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That's interesting, Three years ago, I read a biography about Edwin and John Wilkes Booth. I used that as the basis of a story I wrote back in 2016 for March Mystery Month, a now-defunct feature we had. I'm not bothering to post the link but I found Adam's and Edwin's relationship interesting as well. Since Adam -- in the episode -- says he knew Edwin since college, it implies Edwin may have gone to college but he didn't. I have Adam, having been convinced by Edwin to participate, appearing as a supernumerary in a production of R&J in my opening chapter ... and then someone is murdered and so on and so on....

One day I'll have to read your story. :yes

As for the episode...meh. Patricia Crowley, although lovely, is shrill and annoying. Glad Joe comes to his senses. But Adam has her number early on.
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Re: Episode 122 - THE ACTRESS

Post by Julianna » Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:28 pm

[quote="Adamant

As for the episode...meh. Patricia Crowley, although lovely, is shrill and annoying. Glad Joe comes to his senses. But Adam has her number early on.[/quote]
I have to agree. I never cared for her acting. She plays herself. This was how she acted in Please Don’t Eat The Daisies TV Show. :puke

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Re: Episode 122 - THE ACTRESS

Post by PJudith » Sun Apr 14, 2019 8:27 pm

The lovely Julia Grant sure was career oriented, I'll say that for her! Don't know how devoted a wife she would have made for Joe. :whistling

I can't fault her completely. She was ambitious and went after what she wanted. I sometimes wonder if this episode was written as an almost "inside joke" about some actors and how they can be so single minded in their quest for fame. The BZ script writers were obviously very familiar with the acting profession. The most successful actors never give up. They go to countless auditions. They will pursue a role, pursue fame, etc, often neglecting their families.

I don't think Julia did anything really wrong in taking her young son with her. What was she supposed to do with him? Leave him with relatives? In the flashback episode, "Elizabeth, My Love", Ben takes an infant Adam on a long journey west to pursue HIS dream. And at that time, the early 1830's, a trip west was really rough and filled with dangers.

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Post by Drifter » Mon Apr 15, 2019 9:15 am

While Ben went west, but Ben made sacrifices if needed be. When Adam got sick, he stopped his journey, found a way for him to get medicine when he needed it; and went and begged and took what job he could. I don’t doubt Ben would’ve gone without if it meant Adam would be fed first. And Ben has shown repeatedly he’d give up everything for his family/sons.She didn’t even really want the teaching job which would’ve given her some income so she could still support both of them while acting on the side. I just got the sense Julia would still be going even if Tommy struggled along. And perhaps there’s a reason a good portion of successful actors have gotten divorced multiple times/can’t stay married. Sometimes the price one pays for more success at the expense of her family.

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Re: Episode 122 - THE ACTRESS

Post by ellen » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:36 pm

PJudith wrote: I can't fault her completely. She was ambitious and went after what she wanted. I sometimes wonder if this episode was written as an almost "inside joke" about some actors and how they can be so single minded in their quest for fame. The BZ script writers were obviously very familiar with the acting profession. The most successful actors never give up. They go to countless auditions. They will pursue a role, pursue fame, etc, often neglecting their families.
So true. I suspect most actors and actresses in Hollywood are just like Julia.
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